nice blog! I like the 1st experience that he had here in the Philippines,.. Perhaps, he couldn’t believe that the guards here usually do that “patting” everytime you would go to a mall—that’s what we called overprotective or maybe just for us to be safety..here in the philippines it’s always “SAFETY FIRST” that’s the main reason why “patting” existed which is also good at some points.. I can’t imagine his face..:) yeah, we have different cultures and that’s for the foreigners to learn to adopt and us to adopt it too..
just vice versa.. ![]()
Philippines Call Center Norm CCAP
I just got done talking with a friend that owns a call center here and he talked about the CCAP seminar which he said was really good! He talked about the VP of etelecare and how he said the Philippines was very different from the States but they can still be trained on how to change there culture.
Here are some of his stories that he talked about in his seminar about Philippines call centers.
First he was walking into a mall here in the Philippines and when you are going to a mall the have guard office pat you down to make sure that you don’t have any guns on you and he got up set about it because in the States there is no guards patting you down, you just walk right in no problems. So being upset that he got padded down be went back out to have a smoke to clam him down but then remembering that he is going to have to go through it all again no matter what. That’s the first one, here in the Philippines every one is already us est to guards at the mall from when they were born so that’s the Philippines norm.
Next one
He is looking for a store so he asks his wife to ask the guard were it is at and he say its straight and then take a left and there it is. So he goes straight and takes a left but its not there, so his wife ask another guard and he says not it’s down on the next floor, you go straight and then take a left. So they go to the next floor and they go straight and then go left but the same thing no store, so his wife asks another guard and he says no no it’s on the 3rd floor then you go straight and then go left. So the finally founds it but it took him all that long to find this place which made him up set which is not customer services, that’s the Philippines Norm, if you where in the States most times the person would tell you where it is and then most times say tell you what I have some free time how about I show you, now that is customer service.
Next one
He gets to the store and he is looking for a serge protector for his 42″ LCD TV because he heard that the Philippines power can go up and down and he wanted to protect his 3,000 dollar tv. So he walks into the store and there are 9 guys just standing around pretty much doing nothing, he looks at one of the sergue protectors which there are 50 different kinds and he points at one and one of the sales guys comes over to him and says that it’s the best one that they have and he asked why? The sales rep said because it has a five minute delay if the power ever surges or shuts off, he asked why is this five minute delay so important and the sales rep could only tell him that it had a five minute delay and the parts are made in Japan. So now he is not sure what to buy so he goes to a TV stop and he sees some thing like what he is looking for and he said, hey I need some thing like that and he asks them if it has a five minute delay and the sales rep did not have any idea about what he was talking about and said all I know this is what we used, it’s called Panther. So he goes back to the other shop and tells the sales rep I want a Panther that is the best one but the rep says we don’t sale Panther but this one I was telling you about is the best and he says tell you what, if you buy this I will come and install it for you. Now the VP of etelecare says now that is customer service!
So now the sales rep has installed this at his house to his TV and everything is good to go, DONE but he has no real way to test it out to see what happens? So he calls the build admin and ask them about his TV and surge protector to see if it would work, the build admin just laughed at him and said sir, the whole build is set up with back up generators and surge protectors so no matter what if the power every surged or system would cover it.
Here is his point on this one, the sales rep did not ask him enough question to figure out why he needed this surge protector. When you are dealing with sales or customer service you need to define what the customer is asking and how you can help them, the Philippines norm is just sale and you need to know about the products that you are selling.
The seminar end good and he said that you need to train your people well on how that the States acted and what they want, kind out what they are looking for and why they need the product they are selling.
Who every did this seminar from what it sounds like they did a very good job, I would love to meet them.
I hope I got the story right.
CCAP sounds like the real deal, I will be at the next one.
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I have read your post. Its interesting and nice to read. thanks……….
September 15, 2010
Interesting post! That guard has really a good manner.
September 17, 2010
Its good to hear that even phillippines are interested to take outbound Process, but the question is will this effect Indian Market?
Just quizzed What say?
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Walker
September 19, 2010
Hi Leyan,
You a very right, my wife says the same thing when we spend time in the US. We joke around some times and always say “for a while Sir”
Thanks for commenting
September 19, 2010
Hi Walker,
India is was more companies outsourcing there because they have been doing it there for a every long time, from what I know here it only really started to boom around 1995 to 1998. The India market is starting to see the affect now which is one reason there are dropping there rates to outsource very very cheap compared to the Philippines but at the end of the day India’s problem is there accent. I will say India’s strong point is there technical back ground.
October 26, 2010
I really don’t see the point in asking a consumer WHY would you want to buy this. Your part of a company that supports a product in sales, you are not to evaluate WHY this consumer wants this product.
for example a guy walks into foot locker and asks the sales rep for new shoes, now the appropriate thing to ask is what is the purpose of the shoe? The guy says for jogging. Now this is as far as a sales rep should go, the client needs jogging shoes now get the best jogging shoes available in the store and do your best to sell it.
The SALES rep is not to question the reason/motive of the buyer to purchase your product as this is not professional or even to tell a potential buyer that HE DOES NOT need to buy this product is ridiculous and is plain rude to the customer.
Whether the buyer really needs this product is not for a seller to determine, it is the sellers duty to sell the product.
And frankly as a company that does the workload for a business abroad, my agents are not experienced in the US lifestyle to be giving advice on things US citizens need.
If I hear this happen in my callcenter, that agent will either be fired or go through another month of training.
NB
October 27, 2010
It’s a different culture here in the Philippines, same in the States so you need to make sure that your agents are trained correctly for what ever county that you are running campaigns in.
February 18, 2011
i usually am nice to customer service and cut them slack because i know how tough their days can get.
however, i would call and be nice to the agents but for some reason i notice the agents in philippines are rude to the callers, why is that? if i ask something that they cannot answer they go on the defensive side and you can hear the annoyance in their voices.
one time i called a tech call center and when they asked for ton of information i merely asked the guy “oh shoudlnt you guys have that in the system already” and this guy retorted in the cattiest voice ever ” I STILL NEED YOU TO GIVE ME THE INFO OR I WONT HELP YOU”
the situation seems to be in reverse now, the agents are rude towards customers but i assure you i am not a rude person. so go figure…but in india whenever i would call , as thick of an accent as they may have, they are more courteous and have a sense of professionalism
these are just my experiences i hope the call center ppl in phil will be educated better in how to handle a phone call
March 23, 2011
It might be same term in our country to and mostly outsourcing projects going over here.
May 13, 2011
I agree, most of the people working in malls, offices & even in call centers are not trained enough to do customer service, lack of courtesy and just waits for the payoff… that is why most people working on a call center for quite a while have adopted the American culture… reporting for work on time, multi-tasking work, etc. unlike others who just work and just watch the clock ticking for the logout time…
















